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Sue and Brett came to England from South Africa in 2002 and have been married over 25 years. They have 7 children between them and currently 14 grandchildren.  Their unique story comes from their early experiences as children living in the profound disconnection of Apartheid South Africa, the lessons gained in reconnecting and building their own relationship and their vision to teach and guide people into connection. This unique story informs their work profoundly and together they are committed to creating powerful trainings that inspire others and themselves to live in connection from their essence.

Over the years Sue has, and continues to, study widely. Integrative Therapy and various Coaching models, Imago Relationship Therapy, Appreciative Inquiry, Interpersonal Neurobiology, Brain Spotting and Encounter-centered Couples Transformation are among the themes that have impacted her way of working. Through a joint passion to understand personal transformation and the power of presence, Sue and Brett have road tested their learnings, applying them to their own lives and relationship. They have come to understand that people thrive in connection and their passion is in helping people and couples into connection and real transformation.

The Kairos Encounter Centre came into being out of their vision to provide a rich, warm inspiring space for professionals of all flavours to learn more about working with couples and individuals in the Relational Paradigm, based on Encounter-centered Couples Transformation. Sue and Brett graduated from Hedy Schleifer’s Masterclass in EcCT, and they continue to participate in the ongoing teaching and evolution of Encounter-centered Couples Transformation. The trainings Sue and Brett present, by invitation only, provide cutting edge interventions in working with couples in the ethos of EcCT. They have taught and presented in the UK, USA, Holland, Namibia and South Africa.




After spending many years in Essex, Rachel returned to her hometown in Bedfordshire, where she now enjoys life with her husband and son. Since November 2023, Rachel has been the organizational force behind Sue's dynamic schedule. She finds immense joy in working with Sue, drawn to her calming presence and the positive energy she exudes.

Rachel is passionate about growing alongside Sue, and she's excited to contribute to Sue's mission of guiding more couples and therapists. With her expertise and enthusiasm, Rachel is committed to making a meaningful impact in the lives of those they serve.

If you have any questions or need more information about Sue or her practice, feel free to reach out to Rachel at She is always available to assist and provide the information you need.

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